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Why Braedale Goldwyn Wasn’t a Great Sire of Sons


2014 editors choice graphicOver the years it has been almost impossible to predict which hot new sire would be the next great sire of sons.  Just because a sire had a high index did not always mean that he was going to be a great sire of sons.  For instance, sires like Goldwyn produced great bull mothers but did not seem to make as much of an impact through their sons.  There have also been sires like O-Man that were great sires of sons, but did not seem to leave consistent bull mothers.  Fortunately, genomics at the chromosomal level has started to give us insight into which sires will make better sires of sons and which ones will be more impactful through their daughters.

Look to the past to predict the future

There is no question that Goldwyn has been one of the biggest impact sires over the past 20 years.  But for all the great daughters he has left, he has not had the same dominant performance through his sons.  Recent analysis by the Bullvine actually starts to explain why. Using the Chromosomal Predicted Transmitting Abilities tool on the Council for Dairy Cattle Breeding’s website we took a look at the top 10 Goldwyn daughters with EBV and genomic tests and his top 10 sons.  The following is what we found.

Table 1 – BRAEDALE GOLDWYN’s genetic contribution to his top progeny

$NM Sire Dam %Sire %Dam
Daughters

322

209

112

65%

35%

Sons

293

158

136

54%

46%

It is interesting to note that Goldwyn was much more dominant (11%) in passing his genetics on to his daughters than he was to his sons.  When you look deeper at this, you will actually find that Goldwyn himself actually received 64% of his genetics from his mother, BRAEDALE BALER TWINE VG-86-2YR-CAN 33*.

Chromosomal PTA for BRAEDALE GOLDWYN

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In order to put this into a relative comparison, we decided to look at a sire that has been the opposite scenario, O-BEE MANFRED JUSTICE.  O-Man has been one of the greatest sires of sons of the past 20 years, but not as dominant on the female side.  When we look at Justice’s top 10 daughters and sons we find the following.

Table 2 – O-BEE MANFRED JUSTICE’s genetic contribution to his top progeny

$NM Sire Dam %Sire %Dam
Daughters

487

341

146

70%

30%

Sons

517

343

173

66%

34%

It is interesting to see that when looking at Justice’s progeny results he played a far more significant role on average, 68% of the genetic contribution to his progeny, than Goldwyn’s 59%.  This is especially true where Justice contributed 12% more to his top sons than Goldwyn did. This is not surprising when you notice that O-Man himself received a much larger contribution (48%) of his genetics from his father, as compared to Goldwyn’s 36%.

Chromosomal PTA for O-BEE MANFRED JUSTICE

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Who’s Next?

Based on these trends, when looking at some of the top genomic sires from the past 4 years, we find that sires like Mogul, and Epic will be more impactful as sires of sons than say sires like Supersire and Numero Uno.  This is based on the proportions of their current chromosomes coming from their sires and their dams.

As far as current top genomic sires go, DE-SU 11756 OCTAVIAN-ET, SEAGULL-BAY SILVER-ET and MR DELICIOUS COIN 15006 will be more impactful through their sons.  Sires like MORNINGVIEW MCC KINGBOY and EDG JACEY MCCUT 8396-ET will probably leave more bull mothers, rather than sires of sons.  Again, this is based on the proportions of their current chromosomes coming from their sires and their dams.

The Bullvine Bottom Line.

For years, we have wondered why some sires seemed unable to pass on their great genetics to their sons.  Now at the chromosome level we know why.  Some sires are just more dominant about passing their genetics onto their progeny than others.  (Read more:  The Genetic Genius of Darwin, Mendel and Hunt – Genetic Transmission and the Holstein)  A sire’s ability to pass his genetics onto his progeny especially his sons, has a huge impact on whether or not he will be an impactful sire of sons.  For bulls like Goldwyn, this inability means he has fewer legacy sons, while Justice’s ability to dominantly pass on his genetics has contributed to his sons reading like a who’s who list.


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Comments

  1. From a pheno type point of view goldwyn has made the best type sires in the breed and often is found in a lot of index pedigree’s

  2. Even if Goldwyn didn’t produce as many sons, in the end I think he got the chances with the limited sons he had, and that’s what matters. How many of O-Man’s sons are going to have an impact? Not that many, I’m afraid, due to his low type.

    • Goldwyn had 156 sons sampled by AI units in North America with only 7 (4%) having higher daughter proofs than himself. O-Man has 26 sons proven in North America, 8 (35%) are higher than himself. With Man-O-Man, AltaIota, Freddie, AltaEsquire, Bronco and Manifold, all having sons that are now sires of sons. So no question O-Man from a paternal side is going to have a far greater impact.

  3. o-man, impact sire? How many oman sons are going to put cattle in the show ring? Not a chance…They are built like a bowling ball, round! I won’t use oman, or his sons, not chance… Its the same amount of work to look after a good cow, as a poor cow, & I’d rather have a barn full of VG, & EX cows.. Genomic young sires, & flash in pan semen has no place in my semen tank. I’ll take Goldwyn sons anytime!

    • Kevin,
      I love the show ring as much as the next person. But when I comes to genetics advancement it represents less than 1% of the market share. So it is irrelevant when it comes to genetic advancement, for any sire to even be considered in the genetic advancement talks he has to be relevant in the commercial market. That means production, longevity and most importantly health and fertility. Most show ring bulls don’t even measure up in that regard.

      Andrew

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