Recently as part of our weekend humor series we published the picture seen at the right. In publishing the image we knew we would get a reaction, but we were surprised at the way breeders interpreted it. While we intended to show how old school breeders are dissing on genomics, but instead it seemed to become a rallying cry for old school dairy breeders.
The conversation that has stemmed from it has been very interesting. As you can see, there are still many breeders who don’t totally understand the merits of using top genomic young sires. In an effort to help educate, or maybe just bang my head against the wall, we have prepared the following details. .
Let’s take a comparison of the top 10 Genomics Young Sires vs. the Top 10 Proven sires from the April 2012 proof run. Of course we all know that the genomic young sires will have higher breeding values, but we need to account for the expected drop. Our analysis of the NAAB genomic sires’ proofs vs. their later daughter proven proofs currently shows a 13.8% drop on TPI. (Note: we are actually tracking the drop on LPI sires, TPI sires and PLI sires, and so far we see them dropping 9.7%, 13.8%, and 13.5% respectively.)
The following table shows where the current top genomic sires would rank compared to the proven sires options available currently.
| Name | PTA Milk | PTA Fat Pounds | PTA Fat % | PTA Protein Pounds | PTA Protein % | Net Merit | PTA Type | TPI or PTI | P vs. G |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| BADGER-BLUFF FANNY FREDDIE | 1215 | 59 | 0.05 | 47 | 0.04 | 792 | 1.25 | 2251 | P |
| LONG-LANGS OMAN OMAN-ET | 1442 | 78 | 0.09 | 72 | 0.1 | 648 | 2.03 | 2247 | P |
| AMIGHETTI NUMERO UNO-ET | 1069 | 83 | 0.16 | 46 | 0.05 | 833 | 2.85 | 2245 | G |
| CO-OP BOSSIDE MASSEY-ET | 1115 | 63 | 0.08 | 53 | 0.07 | 720 | 1.82 | 2244 | P |
| SEAGULL-BAY SUPERSIRE-ET | 2154 | 97 | 0.08 | 66 | 0.01 | 854 | 2.40 | 2225 | G |
| ENSENADA TABOO PLANET-ET | 2323 | 75 | -0.04 | 69 | 0 | 736 | 2.12 | 2215 | P |
| CO-OP O-STYLE OMAN JUST-ET | 1646 | 41 | -0.07 | 48 | -0.01 | 707 | 1.36 | 2199 | P |
| DE-SU BKM MCCUTCHEN 1174-ET | 1286 | 66 | 0.08 | 51 | 0.04 | 690 | 3.45 | 2196 | G |
| CHARLESDALE SUPERSTITION-ET | 1705 | 29 | -0.12 | 51 | 0 | 677 | 1.99 | 2188 | P |
| LOTTA-HILL SHOTTLE 41-ET | 1845 | 62 | -0.02 | 41 | -0.05 | 613 | 2.52 | 2178 | P |
| REGANCREST ALTAIOTA-ET | 920 | 70 | 0.13 | 43 | 0.06 | 603 | 2.33 | 2175 | P |
| DE-SU GILLESPY-ET | 2308 | 68 | -0.06 | 57 | -0.04 | 612 | 2.85 | 2171 | P |
| MORNINGVIEW LEVI | 831 | 66 | 0.13 | 51 | 0.1 | 686 | 1.43 | 2168 | P |
| SEAGULL-BAY HEADLINER-ET | 1618 | 84 | 0.09 | 58 | 0.03 | 743 | 2.77 | 2152 | G |
| MOUNTFIELD SSI DCY MOGUL-ET | 1184 | 68 | 0.10 | 41 | 0.03 | 739 | 2.89 | 2149 | G |
| WABASH-WAY EVOLVE-ET | 2089 | 55 | -0.08 | 51 | -0.04 | 502 | 2.97 | 2143 | P |
| S-S-I DOMAIN LITHIUM-ET | 1430 | 57 | 0.02 | 47 | 0.02 | 760 | 2.41 | 2139 | G |
| DE-SU 1263-ET | 1015 | 66 | 0.11 | 47 | 0.07 | 773 | 2.14 | 2130 | G |
| CO-OP OMAN LOGAN-ET | 1643 | 79 | 0.07 | 60 | 0.04 | 655 | 0.93 | 2128 | P |
| MAINSTREAM MANIFOLD | 1561 | 81 | 0.09 | 54 | 0.03 | 661 | 1.12 | 2120 | P |
| RONELEE SSI O DADDY-ET | 1984 | 54 | -0.06 | 59 | 0.00 | 693 | 3.10 | 2120 | G |
| ROYLANE BOXER PUNCH 4311-ET | 1090 | 68 | 0.10 | 50 | 0.07 | 671 | 2.84 | 2119 | G |
| MINNIGAN-HILLS DAY-ET | 1229 | 56 | 0.05 | 41 | 0.02 | 678 | 3.17 | 2118 | G |
| E-LONGVIEW CM-ET | 1636 | 79 | 0.06 | 49 | 0 | 645 | 1.6 | 2117 | P |
| KELLERCREST SUPER LAYNE-ET | 1298 | 41 | -0.03 | 41 | 0.01 | 728 | 2.56 | 2108 | G |
| SULLY HART MERIDIAN-ET | 1932 | 51 | -0.07 | 55 | -0.01 | 597 | 3.62 | 2106 | G |
| VA-EARLY-DAWN SUDAN CRI-ET | 1260 | 82 | 0.13 | 52 | 0.05 | 558 | 1.83 | 2105 | P |
| COLDSPRINGS GARNETT CRI-ET | 214 | 55 | 0.18 | 41 | 0.13 | 650 | 0.82 | 2103 | P |
| DE-SU D MAYFIELD 893-ET | 1633 | 55 | -0.02 | 47 | -0.01 | 634 | 3.37 | 2102 | G |
| LARS-ACRES SHOT TRIGGER-ET | 579 | 22 | 0 | 23 | 0.02 | 598 | 2.34 | 2101 | P |
| WA-DEL SEBASTIAN-ET | 444 | 31 | 0.06 | 22 | 0.03 | 543 | 2.39 | 2101 | P |
| GENERVATIONS EPIC | 1796 | 59 | -0.03 | 55 | 0.01 | 661 | 2.72 | 2100 | G |
| DE-SU BK DISTRIBUTE 1150-ET | 1182 | 69 | 0.10 | 53 | 0.06 | 641 | 2.99 | 2091 | G |
| O-COSMOPOLITAN-ET | 1549 | 72 | 0.06 | 59 | 0.04 | 673 | 2.93 | 2089 | G |
| MS POSIBILITY PERFORMER-ET | 323 | 40 | 0.11 | 23 | 0.05 | 538 | 2.64 | 2088 | P |
| SANDY-VALLEY STERLING-ET | 1848 | 84 | 0.07 | 59 | 0.02 | 678 | 2.77 | 2088 | G |
| LADYS-MANOR PL SHAMROCK-ET | 1840 | 64 | -0.01 | 49 | -0.03 | 734 | 2.69 | 2085 | G |
| WELCOME SUPER PETRONE-ET | 1117 | 53 | 0.04 | 30 | -0.02 | 770 | 2.06 | 2084 | G |
| SCHILLVIEW GARRETT-ET | 1183 | 51 | 0.03 | 40 | 0.02 | 587 | 1.57 | 2081 | P |
| BREMER ALLEGRO MAXUM-ET | 1323 | 55 | 0.02 | 36 | -0.01 | 588 | 1.54 | 2081 | P |
| MISTY SPRINGS SUPERSONIC | 1490 | 81 | 0.09 | 52 | 0.03 | 693 | 2.47 | 2080 | G |
| CLEAR-ECHO ALTAR2-ET | 1532 | 50 | -0.02 | 35 | -0.04 | 595 | 1.97 | 2080 | P |
| COOKIECUTTER MOM HUNTER-ET | 1581 | 74 | 0.06 | 59 | 0.03 | 647 | 2.76 | 2079 | G |
| DENMIRE MERCHANDISE | 1502 | 90 | 0.12 | 53 | 0.03 | 733 | 2.03 | 2078 | G |
| BOMAZ MARION EMERALD 648-ET | 685 | 93 | 0.25 | 47 | 0.1 | 553 | 1.58 | 2078 | P |
| SYNERGY ALTAJENKINS | 1065 | 56 | 0.06 | 32 | 0 | 530 | 2.37 | 2078 | P |
| KEVREL OMAN MEMPHIS | 1087 | 47 | 0.03 | 45 | 0.05 | 574 | 1.75 | 2077 | P |
| STANTONS DEFINE | 1754 | 54 | -0.03 | 55 | 0.01 | 652 | 2.64 | 2072 | G |
| REGANCREST PARADISE-ET | 862 | 49 | 0.07 | 33 | 0.03 | 697 | 2.63 | 2072 | G |
| DE-SU ALTASTACKED-ET | 1573 | 60 | 0.01 | 53 | 0.02 | 783 | 1.84 | 2071 | G |
What you notice is that three of the top current genomic young sires (Numero Uno, Supersire, and McCutchen) would all rank among the top 10 proven sires. In fact, 25 of the top 50 sires would be genomic young sires. This is not to say that they will all drop the 13.8% that the average sire has already. They could drop more or less. However, what it does show is that these young genomic sires have a much higher predictability than in the past. You can now use a group of these young sires with much greater confidence than in the past.
Are all the top genomic sires, going to end up on the top of the proven sires list, when they have daughter progeny? No, of course not. But what we have been finding is that only about 10% of them drop off the top list, and many of them hold pretty strong. We have even found some genomic sires that actually go up with daughter information. What it does mean? Use genomic sires that are within 10% of the top sires. If they have GTPI values of 2,300 or greater, you will end up ahead of where you would have been, if you had not used any genomic sires at all. Just remember this is an average. The movement will not be exactly the same for all sires, hence the need to spread out your young sire usage.
For all those old school breeders, who are pissing on genomics, well what can I say? I don’t expect to change your mind. However, it is foolish to piss on something that you don’t understand. Might I recommend that you read our free guide – The Dairy Breeders “No BS” Guide to Genomics.
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